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General Meeting Agenda for 2018-11-30


Welcome and Opening Statements

In attendance:

  • Rich Bloch
  • Marissa Iannarone
  • Adrian Berg
  • Leonard Edwin
  • Jeff Stollman (Recording)
  • Satarupa Bose
  • Bryan McWhorter (Guest Speaker)
  • Ken Moyle (Guest Speaker)
  • Gerry M
  • Kamlesh Nagware
  • Linwan
  • Tony Hussain
  • 155595158164
  • 13605254961
  • 15303016746


  • If you’re new to the group, please…
    • Introduce yourself
    • Tell us where you're geographically located
    • Share with us your interests in healthcare in general, and blockchain technologies in specific

Linwan - healthcare interoperability: health information exchange and working on blockchain use cases for EMR
Kamlesh - exploring Hyperledger Fabric use cases for a client (company: Diaspark located in the US)

HLHC-SIG Guest Speaker(s)

  • Speaking on the topic of enterprise collaboration and sensitive information sharing in an open-source business context, we have the following guests joining us:
    • Ken Moyle, Technology Attorney with K6 Partners is a board member and Chair of the Public Policy Committee for the Electronic Signature & Records Association (ESRA)
    • Bryan McWhorter, Partner at Knobbe Martens, Seattle, Washington, USA. Bryan focuses on patent procurement and dispute resolution, particularly for companies in the software, telecommunications, and food and beverage areas.

* Enterprise collaboration (how do we approach selective sharing IP)

  • Presenters:
    • Ken Moyle, Chair of Public Policy Committee for Electronic Signature and Records Association
    • Bryan McWhorter, IP attorney at Knobbe Martens
  • Copyrights vests in creator unless explicit transfer via “work for hire” contract or clause in employment agreement (in most jurisdictions)
  • Copyrights don't require formal registration
  • General Public License (“copyleft”) open-source agreements require anyone who uses and/or enhances code to make it publicly available
    • Consider it like a virus: once infected, it spreads to anything that it touches
    • Lesser General Public License agreement allows some ability to retain private rights of open-source software that is enhanced by private parties
      • Mozilla license – provide least ability for private licenses
      • Apache license – greater ability to patent enhancements (Hyperledger uses Apache 2.0 license)
  • Apache 2.0 tends to be viral – all derivative works are covered by Apache 2.0
  • Patent rights are automatically granted under this
  • If you provide code to Hyperledger, anyone can use it without copyright and you give up patent protection rights, you can still create unique derivative works and copyright them
  • It includes a promise not to sue people who use Apache 2.0 software for patent infringement
    • MIT license – most ability for private use
    • Unlicense – merely limits liability
  • Two issues
    • What are the limitations for me to use it?
    • What are the limitations for me to capitalize my IP built on top of open-source licensed code?
  • Patents vs copyrights
    • Patents cover “ideas”
    • Copyrights cover code
  • Questions
    • What's benefit of patent vs cheaper copyright?
      • Copyright covers only code, not the concept which could be implemented using different code

Community Announcements

  • Feel free to share your community announcements as they relate to the Hyperledger community
    • December 12-15, Basel, Switzerland
    • March 12-14, 2019, Osaka, Japan
    • Emphasis on life sciences, with topics of interest to include healthcare and medical technologies
    • 2-Page Short Paper Submission (All Categories) deadline is November 30, 2018
    • Discussion: anyone planning or interested in attending?
    • February 11-15, Orlando, Florida
    • Discussion: anyone planning or interested in attending?
  • Discussion tabled for next meeting (time constrained)

HLHC-SIG Subgroup Updates

  • Patient/Member Subgroup (Marissa Iannarone, Lead)
  • Payer Subgroup (Raveesh Dewan, Lead)
  • EMR Subgroup (Rich Bloch, Acting Lead)
  • Discussion tabled for next meeting (time constrained)

HLHC-SIG Ad Hoc Team Updates

  • Wiki Redesign Team (Brian Ahier, Raveesh Dewan, and Mikhail Elias, Lead)
  • Academic Research Team (Mikhail Elias and Adrian Berg, Lead)
  • Charter Review/Revision Team (Len Edwin and Ken Allgood [writers], with Adrian Berg and Marissa Iannone [editors])
  • Subgroup Review Team (Benjamin Djidi, Mikhail Elias, Steven Elliot, Robert Coli, and Sonia Wagner, Lead)
    • Kick off meeting this past Monday (11/26)
    • Purpose is twofold:
      • Fundamentally to understand the future direction of the EMR Subgroup
      • To determine if a revised EMR Subgroup strategy might also apply to other subgroups
  • Discussion tabled for next meeting (time constrained)

Old Business

  • A HIPAA-compliant Hyperledger (Rich)
    • Discussion: not much community feedback to date… next steps?
  • Discussion tabled for next meeting (time constrained)

New Business

  • We're getting a new name (Rich)
    • Sector Working Groups (non-technical, community-facing) will be renamed to Special Interest Groups (SIGs)
    • Currently in transition, so please be patient
  • End of Year HLHC-SIG Survey (Rich)
    • Discussion: specific areas of focus for this upcoming survey?
  • Onboarding slide presentation for HLHC-SIG (Rich)
    • Great example presented by the Social Impact Working Group
    • Ostensibly used for onboarding a new chair/officer, but could be used for new members?
    • Discussion: would there be good utility/value to something like this?
  • Change from HLHCWG to HLCH-SIG announced. All other discussions tabled for next meeting (time constrained)

Next Meeting

  • Scheduled for Friday, 12/14, 0700 Pacific Time
  • Discussion: topics to add to agenda?
groups/healthcare/2018_11_30_hcwg.txt · Last modified: 2018/12/01 04:38 by Rich Bloch